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Walter Mason

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Let's hear best practices that you've experienced in your state and any questions you might have about organizing a state Justice Party.

My perspective in each state is find out what the ballot requirements are in the state for the 2012 Presidential General election. Those requirements become the project outline and then I try to develop a team to meet those requirements. In every state it is different how the party becomes recognized so this requires that we have to be flexible and organize according to the rules in that state. 
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An example of a typical project outline would help those people who are unfamiliar with putting together a project outline.  Perhaps those states, if they had a project outline, where JP is already on the ballot can make their project plan available for all of us to use as and example to follow.
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Hawaii Ballot Access Fail. . . What we can all learn from this.

Sorry to say we did not get enough signatures to the elections office in time but I do believe that we learned some very useful things by operating under the gun during the final hours before deadline.

Most importantly, I learned that voting Americans are ready for a third party. I encountered so many different kinds of people in the process of gathering signatures and succeeded at getting an astonishing variety to support our petition.  I had rank and file Democrats, Republicans, Independents and Greens as well as declared candidates and high-level party operatives from these political persuasions sign on.  I had friends and strangers, young and old, Ph.D.s and even a man who was mentally ill and under the care of a therapist sign on.  It was an incredible experience for me personally and I feel even more committed to provide each and every one of these people with a real choice come November. 

Here's what it boiled down to:

Aloha! Are you a registered voter in the State of Hawaii?
Yes.
All right! Would you like to sign my petition?
Well, it depends. What is your petition about?
It's about ballot access. I'm with the Justice Party. We are a coalition of conservatives and liberals working to get the money out of politics and we can't even get access to the ballot without your help. 

That's about all it took to get their attention and open them up to anything else I had to say.  Although I started out with a much more complicated sales pitch, it was basically the idea that we were going to unite people of all persuasions to (as Rocky puts it so well) "rid politics of the corrupting influence of money" that got people on board.  

Stick with this message and you will go far. 





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That is unfortunate we didn't get Hawaii and they don't allow write-ins either as a left leaning state that was an obvious target. Get em next time I guess luckily they only have 4 electoral votes and Obama was likely to win there anyway (home state) so doesn't hurt to much in the big picture. 

I agree that Americans are ready for another option and a 3rd party its just going to take a lot of hard work and we must try to project the viability of the Rocky as a candidate if he can get attention. These types of efforts often start small but can grow to be much larger if we can work hard and avoid making too many gaffes on the road that hurts our viability and legitimacy. The American people are clearly fed up with the corruption in DC and many of them feel voiceless and ignored. We must show them that the JP speaks for them not for the special interests and that we are part of the solution to this disaster in DC.  
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In regards to the pitch I like it but I would maybe add "we are a group of liberals, conservatives, moderates and AMERICANS!..." that covers everybody and makes people have a sense of nationalism/pride. It appeals to their Americana and by adding moderates which most people self ID as (per polls) it makes them more interested as well as most people think "moderates" are the answer generally. Adding Americans also appeals to the dissatisfied group of Americans who really don't id with party labels and many who don't even though because they are so turned off by politics. 

Getting money out of politics is a great line of focus and their are many other effective lines as well. Its good to cater to your audience and your state based upon what issues matter to them.
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The only problem with saying it is made up of Moderates, Conserves, Liberals is that people are so brainwashed about what conservatives are plus there are different versions of conservatives. I am a conservative financially but socially I am not. I believe in Humanity and many don't. So many are so heartless. We should look at Europe. Europeans are mainly conservative but you would never know it because they don't bring silly issues in to politics you never hear of gays or woman or other social issues because all Europeans agree on a whole the important issues for how they want to live.We are the only country that can't agree on anything. It was planned purposely by corporate war mongers and Anti Americans which are currently running our country.  Yes your right we can try to put it out there to show there are people who look past the BS and want to live a real life of love and believe in humanity. Only those who are strong will prosper and join our party.

I am out there everyday trying to make a difference and show people humanity is our great Asset not a weakness which the media wants us to believe we are.

I am going to Law School to fight for every Human who deserves to be equal and treated with dignity and respect. I love the world and humanity.

Without Humanity the world would not exist. These sickos who are destroying our planet and humanity are pushing it through the media. Without people there is nothing to sell or buy or eat. The world will crumble 

Scary


We need to say we are all Americans irrelevant of skin color, sexual orientation, and prior beliefs. We are people who believe in living in a 21 st century with 21 century ideas for progress in future not 1600's ideas for doing things. On another note, the constitution says we the people not we the corporation. First and foremost we make the laws we are the government we are born in the US we are the people. Never forget that. We elect the people to govern the laws we the people want to get accomplished. We should never be afraid of that. We own the sidewalks and public parks we pay taxes it belongs to all people. 

The Occupy movement was not strong enough to show that.

I go barefoot and  that sidewalk I walk on belongs to me as well as all of you.

It is a public place. America we can't let them take that away from us.


My greatest idols are Gandhi, Mother Teresa, Nelson Mandela, Dr Martin Luther King,  Malcolm X, Dalai Lama, Andrea Bocelli, and Oprah Winfrey,

Why these people because they made a significant contribution to humanity and had helped society in anyway they could.


Why Andrea Bocelli you might ask well it is due to his love of music and music comes from the heart even though he is blind he knows nothing will stop him and life goes on which means keep on living

So wonderful!

Humanity is to keep on living and never give up on anything

look what happened to Gandhi he fought to make a difference and it worked.

Here is a quote I made up a few months back before getting my master's

If you use it please quote me

I want to patent the quote

"Lead with dignity and respect will follow"





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Take meeting minutes and post them like in Utah. 

http://justiceparty.nationbuilder.com/2/utah_justice_party_meeting_minutes
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Surfs Up!!!!! Love it


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The reason I like using the term "conservative" is that is gets misused as much as "liberal."  While I am sick of people using these labels as a way to divide us. I am more than happy to use them as a way to bring us together.  

My stepbrother calls himself a conservative.  He supports gay marriage and reproductive rights. He is against war and thinks we were wrong to attack Iraq. He voted for Obama.  Actually when you get right down to it, he only identifies with the Republican Party because he is a businessperson.  He also represent a perfect target for recruiting into the Justice Party. 


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Thanks for the explanation Kristine. I would just suggest adding the term "moderate" when describing the coalition. For example, David Brooks describes himself as a moderate. Newt Gringrich describes Mitt Romney as a Massachusetts moderate (although Romney now describes himself as a true conservative). Anyway, I think there are people who consider themselves as moderate and do not identify with being either liberal or conservative. To me the big split appears to be on how people see the role of government. Is government the solution or the problem? Do we need more government or should government get out of the way? Before Reagan there was no such split.
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Good point.
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Take a look at these suggestions and compare them to what your state did, is doing, or plans to do.
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      I think Americans are fearful of any political affiliation, especially now how things have changed over the months. I believe the best way to describe the Justice Party is we are the majority who are progressive and want things done fast. Many people associate Progressive with Democrats and Liberals. I don't appreciate that ignorant view. Where are those so called Democrats who claim to be progressive? There might be 3 or so but they are paid off to shut up. Liberals are not progressive. For example, here in NY, they claim to be progressive; however, the issues are not being addressed. Yes there are some people who go along with issues which progressives are pushing but most go along with the status quo.  Let me clarify this further, many New Yorkers (NYC 5 Boro’s) are not really progressive in their heart. They are told to be by a typical blue state corporate media. For example, many New Yorkers can't even travel from their part of the city. For example, Queens to the Bronx or Brooklyn to Manhattan (Brooklyn Battery Tunnel) or Staten Island (Outer Bridge Crossing) The tolls are a killer. It costs $6.50 one way on the Throgs Neck and Whitestone and it is literally 10 minute ride to cross the Whitestone Bridge and The Throgs Neck Bridge. This is insane. We are in the same city. I could understand if we were traveling out of the state but just 10 minutes away. This is something that is so serious and severely over looked. Democrats tried to stop the price hike. They claimed they wanted to. Many can’t afford this. Where are those politicians now? The average working person is scared to do anything here in NYC because they are told everything has a cost to it. Again fears!!!! People who are struggling feel they don't want to be part of it. They feel they just need to worry about themselves to get by.


     A true progressive never stops thinking progressive, "out of the box" or going 100% above and beyond to make a change. A true progressive will do their best to please their constituents. That is what progress is about. Progressive is a word that comes from progress. When we go out there and spread the word, let’s say we are for change and only change.

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This is an excerpt from a private response to a person in the Forum.  I thought I had things that should be posted to the general Forum.


Note: I apologize to other state committees whose level of maturity may not have come to my attention.

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If you have the time - take a look at the  Justice Party of Texas (http://texas.justicepartyusa.net/).  I believe that state committee is pointing the way for all the JP state committees.  I'm suggesting they need to emulate Texas.  The Texas organization is preparing itself to formalize the relationship between them and the National JP Committee and county organizing.  That is what a state party is all about.  You can see all of this in their charter and by-laws (right down to copyright of logo) and the structure of their web pages.   Ben, the Texas State Point Person, and also the JP Regional Point Person for the Southern Region, would be happy to hear from you, even if you are out of the state.

If you like the JP party, get involved with the State Point Person in your state and let them know you want to go in the same direction as Texas.  If they need some clarification, please have them contact me.

I wish I could point you to a JP strategy statement.  As you've observed, we just don't have it together enough for me to do that.  The National Steering Committee is still steering.  We need to hold on until they get out of that phase.  Until then, each of us interprets and makes up the strategy.

My personal opinion is that each state committee is to behave like a "candidate committee" (i.e., sole purpose is to get Rocky on the ballot) and plan to mature into a "state party committee". Perhaps this is a  rephrased version of what Walter said in another Forum post (sorry, don't know where its at).

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ALL THE STATE COMMITTEES NEED ENERGIZED VOLUNTEERS.
Don't just stand by - stand up.
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I'm with the Justice Party. We are a coalition of conservatives and liberals working to get the money out of politics... it was basically the idea that we were going to unite people of all persuasions to (as Rocky puts it so well) "rid politics of the corrupting influence of money" that got people on board.  
 
Stick with this message and you will go far.

"We are a coalition of conservatives and liberals?"  I must not have read these web pages thoroughly then.  I don't mind being affiliated with conservatives.  But just how many conservatives would become upset if they carefully read this party's agenda?  Many items would be unoffensive, but I believe they might not support some of the platform being it is rather progressive.

Did Rocky mean people of all political persuasions, or all progressive political persuasions?   I worry that attempts at such panaceas might water down the platform so much as to cause some people to exit the party.

Thank you for your thoughtful responses, ahead of time.

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