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Hello everyone, I'm TheForeigner. I'm a 18 years old male college student from Quebec. I can't vote in the US as I'm not American, but hey, I might immigrate, and don't hate on the foreign sympathiser!
I just thought I might debate here and share my opinions and learn your opinions. The Justice Party seems to me like the only sane party in the US and it's really a shame you guys are at the moment stuck in this bipartism nonsense.
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Mcamelyne very interesting. We seem to have a good number of former and current Greens. While I evangelize this party, I am often told 'The Green Party and Justice Party' should merge.' Most often, the people saying that are actually not in either party, they just think that all it takes is a large 3rd party. Based on my interviews with former greens in this party, what you said reflects how they feel. As for me, I think more participation in our political system is a good thing. People get mad that we made a 'new party' .... makes me shake my head. Back in 2012, I wasn't sure to go with Anderson or Stein, but in the end I went with the Justice Party. What caught my eye is what you said, that this party is welcoming of many people. I got the impression that the Green Party, while having very great stances on issues, didn't have the broad-base appeal that the Justice Party was founded on. Getting back to the merger thing. To merge with them as we are now, a very new and small party, the result would be that our 'side' would be swallowed up. So you would be left with a slightly larger Green Party but no real change. To ask them to merge with us would be on the rude side, as they have toiled for over 20 years. I do realize that it is a hard fight to get 3rd party exposure, but I asked myself, 'in over 20 years, the GP hasn't really made an impact on the American landscape.' Nearest it did was with Nader. And while I have no problem that people voted for him, and feel it unfair for Dems to yell, 'you made us lose the election', I think the GP will be forever be known as the spoiler. (Maybe though someday we will be a spoiler as well. lol.) I think my point is that you need to attract good people to the party with a wide range of ideas... and 'market' yourself as professional. Americans dislike the system, but I think they are not completely ready to go 100% green, so I think we have a good opportunity with the Justice Party - a fresh start so to speak. I will of course always be welcoming of Greens and if asked, I will support their candidates in races where we are not running. Something tells me that the reverse may not occur. I think in time, we will see platform planks and policy issues come out of our party that will separate us more from the Green Party. At that time, maybe people will see difference and stop asking us to merge. I hope at some point we can have an article drafted that will help to educate people as to more differences. Welcome to our party Mike! Carlos Connecticut
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Hello, my name is Michael Puffer. I'm still just a high school student in California. However, I have a growing interest in politics and I possibly want to get involved in it in the future. For months I have done personal studies on different political ideologies to find out which one suits me the best. I even looked into more authoritarian ideals. I once thought libertarianism was what I wanted to follow. Even called myself a libertarian for a little bit. However, after learning a little more about politics and the failures of small government, like the Articles of Confederacy, I began to think libertarianism was unrealistic.
I continued looking more more into politics and narrowed down what I believed in and what I wanted in a government. I wanted cuts on military spending. My jingoistic American side of me still says "our military budget should still be larger than everyone else." But I still want to cut our military spending. It would also be nice to end stupid projects like the F-35. I mean, a multi-role fighter plane? Really? Anyways, back on topic, I also wanted a government that promoted equal rights for every race, culture, religion, and sexuality. I wanted a government that promoted states rights but will not just simply let the states handle every problem in the U.S. I want a government that will take charge if it needs to in domestic concerns. I can list more of what I wanted, but I'm probably already boring those of you that are actually reading this. After I figured out what I wanted, I began to search a political party in America that generally has the same ideals. So that's when I came across the Justice Party. I looked more into the party and it started to have a growing interest on me. I looked up on Mr. Anderson and I generally agreed with what he supported and what he didn't support. I had a couple of disagreements, but nothing serious. I began to feel like that the Justice Party was something I could get into. Even though I can't vote yet, I still wish to show support to the party in the background of things for now. Thank you for those who took the time to read this. __________________ "A promise must never be broken." -Alexander Hamilton
"Democracy must learn to defend itself." -Mikhail Gorbachev
"The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life." - Theodore Roosevelt
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Reminder that this message thread is about introducing yourself. I will move the posts that deal with issues and political ideologies, etc to the appropriate categories within this forum. Thanks.
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My name is Brandon and I am a middle school social studies teacher from Iowa.
I believe both major parties have been corrupted by big money and are no longer representing the best interests of the American people. I believe people can no longer pursue the American dream because the cards are stacked against them from the beginning and can't compete with giant corporations who control the majority of the wealth and political influence. I want to see justice for everyone and not just the wealthy few who can buy policies that benefit only the wealthy and special interests. I feel that the middle class in an endangered species that needs to be protected. The game of monopoly needs to end and we need to provide incentives and policies that provide assistance in the rebirth of small businesses.
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Welcome Brandon. We are looking forward to having you build up the party in Iowa. Anywhere near Dyersville? My company has a factory/warehouse there.
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Hey all. My user name tells you what to call me so no need for a formal introduction. I had been a democrat for many years but have found myself in political limbo due to the increasingly prostituted nature of both major parties. I believe that of utmost concern should be campaign finance. No one person or entity (PAC) should be able to contribute more than $10,000 dollars. That is an arbitrary number just for example. Unlimited independent expenditures from lobbyists should be illegal. Plain/simple. If we can reign in these contributions, our elected officials can't be held to the standard of the highest bidder. It is not the end all to beat all, but it is a very good start. Then we can take on for-profit insurance who keep health care unattainable. Pharmaceutical companies would be hard pressed to explain why the US is being gouged by pricing. Fair Trade agreements are a better deal for America, but corporate sponsorship of our politicians has paved the way for FREE trade and outsourced middle America into near extinction.
Also...Remove the cap on Social Security tax. I care not that Bill Gates will not need to collect SS. Most of his fellow Americans will and our government should not break the middle/lower class and the working poor for wanting to enjoy their "golden years" in relative comfort. Who provides the money for the wealthy anyway? The proletariat who will need that retirement "entitlement" do. Social Security is going broke on the backs of the proles and it is just plain wrong. I have lots of other things to say but don't want to write a novel on here! Peace!
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Welcome Alaina, By chance, are you involved with the Progressive Party of Oregon or the other non-majority party? Just curious. We could use a point person in Oregon so feel free to email me.
West By Northwest
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Greetings to the community! I'm registered as "West by Northwest;" I was born and raised in Bay Area, California, and currently reside in Washington state a few miles west of Seattle (hence the name). In 2008 I voted against Sarah Palin by casting my ballot for the Obama/Biden ticket; dissatisfied with the results, I made a point of researching third party candidates in 2012 - and came across Rocky Anderson and the Justice Party. Intrigued by a party that for once actually seemed to represent who I am and where I stand, Anderson earned my vote that year, and I've kept an eye on the party's development since then. A few ought-to-knows about me: - By and large I support the Justice Party platform as described in most places, and I would be glad to volunteer my time and skills to forwarding its cause. That said, I consider myself an independent voter and can all but assure I will not align with the JP's position every time. I believe it is important for the individual to have their own platform, and to be able to agree to disagree with their comrades and constituents; and this is something I would like to see reflected in the JP going into the future, for supporters and officeholders alike. - If I could summarize my political views on a bumper sticker, it would say "my political views don't fit on a bumper sticker." - In regards to volunteering, my skill set is largely centered around multimedia, and I have an associates' degree to back it up. I mostly do graphic design and web layouts, but I'm also capable in video production, Flash animation, and writing and editing. I've also dabbled in HTML, CSS, and PHP, and have rawcoded a few simple websites (none of which got online, unfortunately). It's not entirely a selfless venture; facts are I've been unemployed since graduation, and I'm hoping to build on my resume to become a more competitive job candidate. - If you've ever browsed the political forums on Newgrounds.com, you might know me by the username "Dawnslayer" (a rather pretentious moniker, I admit). I've put myself on indefinite hiatus from that forum due to a flood of rampant and insufferable mindlessness from both ends of the political spectrum, and I am really hoping to not encounter the same thing here. There should be more to the discussion of the issues we face, and indeed to our identity as a nation, than "you're with me or against me." - If you know what the Corbomite Maneuver is without searching for it on the Internet, you're cool in my book. I look forward to meeting new people and seeing the direction the Justice Party takes. Heaven knows this country could always use a different point of view.
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@West By Northwest:
Are you in contact with anyone from the Justice Party of Washington? The group in Washington is one of our strongest state parties, and I believe they have a strong core of activists in the Seattle area. I'm sure they would love to meet you. Please let me know if you'd like to be put in contact with someone locally. __________________ Best Regards,
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Hi people, I have been a subscriber of Justice Party for quite some time. I used to be a democrat and voted for obama in the first election, the reason, I felt he was new and not experienced. I thought that may be good in that he may not be totally corrupt. I was wrong! I am no longer democrat and not republican.
I live in northern Illinois near Chicago. For a long time I have wanted to participate some way on some web site or something else as part of this movement. I discovered this forum today and so I post here. It appears to be months ago that someone posted here. In Illinois, recently a state division of Justice Party was started based in Chicago. They have meetings but I am not able to attend because they are too far from me to travel to. I get emails with invites to "Telephone" meetings but those conflict with my "Online Voice" meetings with a website I am working for. Ok,.. my thoughts. The whole Justice Party campaign, it absolutely needs some ways for all members to participate online. I suspect that there are many people who would love to participate but are unwilling to do it in a telephone conference call. There is all kinds of technology on the net that can provide us with ways to participate with voice, and most of it is free. I likely would suffer and attend a telephone conference, but would want to participate with those members in some kind of online socialization so I could become familiar with them and have ideas for something to say during the phone call. We need a website, maybe something created with a free dating site / social app (several free open-source ones available), or something to create a social network for the supporters. I wonder how many members know of this here forums? Based on the activity here, I bet few. I am just creating this post off the top of my head, but every time I receive an email from Justice Party, these things are what I think about. The lack of communication methods between the members. I want this party to grow and become the leaders of our world. Humanity and the existence of Mother Earth herself depend on it. In conclusion, I feel strong that people would become active in this campaign and invite others to join, but would require that there is ways as I explain above, for us to participate and grow interest in the movement.
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Welcome to the forum.
About this forum. It is a relic from 2012 and will be taken down this winter. We are shifting to a new platform that is similar to a social network. More details to come on that. We do have a fan page on Facebook that is active. Justice Party Activist Network. Please check it out. Also, you'll want to follow your state Justice Party of Twitter and like their Facebook page. There is also a mailing list which we will migrate over to Google Groups. It was very active at one time. From my observation, we have an enthusiastic group of young people that are immersed in social networks and online collaboration. And we have a baby-boomer group that finds email the easiest way to collaborate. At the moment, the party's direction is set by the baby-boomer generation. You can also expect to see some collaboration tools along the lines of WIKIs and IdeaScale down the road. Thanks, Carlos Camacho IT Manager & NSC Member Justice Party
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Welcome, Kang! Many of us share in your frustrations. As Carlos explained, the Justice Party is still a very small party with a wide demographic of members, and so one of our struggles has been in identifying an effective way of communicating that is appealing to everyone. So far, email has been the tool that everyone is comfortable with. I think the new tools that Carlos is creating will be more in line with what you're describing.
Your forum profile indicates that you have an interest in graphic design. I'm pretty certain that the Justice Party of Illinois and the Justice Party USA would be excited to have your help. (If I'm wrong, then come help us out in Pennsylvania. ) If you're willing to lend your talents, I strongly encourage you to get your name in our member's list (if you haven't already). A sign-up form is on the website at: http://www.justicepartyusa.org/membership. Also, feel free to reach out to someone directly. My email address is firstname.lastname@example.org. __________________ Best Regards,