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barefootalways

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Hopefully this will be a serious discussion.

Health care is a basic human right not a privilege as well as free education or affordable tuition for all students.



nolesfan2011

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yes subsidized or free education up to the college level would be a great way to expand our educational system and reduce poverty especially. A german model with free college educations would be great. We also need to reform the regular education system to make it more effective.

In regards to health care I agree that it is a human right and nobody should get sick or even die because they lack good medical care especially in the western world. We need a completely universal system like Canada or France.
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On healthcare. Here is the steps I'd take.

1 Mandate to have insurance."If you don't pay for your insurance, someone else will get stuck with your costs."
2 Income based public option and private insurance available.  "If we are to mandate it, we must have an affordable option."
3. Strip patent rights from any Rx company unable to keep up with demand while providing an affordable product. "If you can't make enough, we will let others make it."
4. Crack down on malpractice lawsuits, including a cap on "pain and suffering" payouts. This will lower malpractice insurance. "If 500K does no compensate you for your pain, will any amount?"
5.Subsidize med school. "or we'll all be paying the interest on Docs school loans every time we visit him."
6. Serious investment in preventative medicine. Screening and fitness. Dollars spent in these are more dollars saved in care and increased quality in living.
7. Cost controls on medical supplies.
8. Limit the number of visits a doctor can charge per day.  As it is now a doctor charges for 30+ hour visits a day.  I've seen doctors charge inpatients for a visits (full hour charge) when they spend less than 5 minutes with the patient.

I've talked about this before and know I'm forgetting some now, but it's a start. Please add to or critique.
barefootalways

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Dude you are awesome some great points.

Universal health care works  in other countries can work here. Americans have a greedy mentality it is sad.

ddd

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Yes we need to have Universal Education. We need to get our country back.  Education is the only way to succeed. This is sad that China is beating the US in education.



barefootalways

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Obama care is a scam. We need true Universal Health Care in this country.

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barefootalways

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   I have an another idea for education. For those of us who have students loans(myself) why can't they be written off or even added to the tax returns that we do in april and get money back for borrowing for our education. It can help all of us. We need smart solutions for our greatest resource. Education is our greatest resource not oil. A commodity is something we should never waste. Education is a commodity.

Will Rocky consider something like this?




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Lexikon

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The reason USA is doing bad in education is due to poverty. Schools that have a low number of people in poverty do better than other schools in the world, although they could still use improvement.

http://shankerblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/ohioindexbypoverty.png

Furthermore, we should have more High Schools that specilize in a single subject, like technology, arts, ect and trade schools for people who don't want to be in academics.

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We should have a Canadian-style system, but with much more investment.  The reason why waiting times in Canada are bad right now is because the Liberal and Conservative governments over the years have cut health care funding in deficit-reduction efforts.  And we should think about either making college free or far more affordable.  
barefooting west coast

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In Cali we need better reforms. I have been on the east coast for the late spring and most of this summer. They seem to be doing better than Cali.

I returned back to Cali and we need to stop helping those who are illegal when it comes to school. There needs to be common sense approaches to issues.

Barefooting in Cali

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I agree with all of your points but #3.  The current health care system is breaking or broken and desperately needs reformed.

Something that is important  to remember is that we dont punish doctors and other health care professionals. They provide an essential role in society, much like teachers, firefighter and policemen. They put in years of hard work gaining the education required to become a doctor and most put in years of hard work actually practicing medicine. They should be (and are currently) rewarded financially for this hard work. The place we should be focusing our financial punishment is the insurance companies, lawyers and to a lesser extent drug companies. The insurance companies provide little or no value to the system and reap the largest rewards. That lopsided and flawed equation needs to change.

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Originally Posted by JoshuaBudden
On healthcare. Here is the steps I'd take.
1 Mandate to have insurance."If you don't pay for your insurance, someone else will get stuck with your costs."
2 Income based public option and private insurance available.  "If we are to mandate it, we must have an affordable option."
4. Crack down on malpractice lawsuits, including a cap on "pain and suffering" payouts. This will lower malpractice insurance. "If 500K does no compensate you for your pain, will any amount?"
5.Subsidize med school. "or we'll all be paying the interest on Docs school loans every time we visit him."
6. Serious investment in preventative medicine. Screening and fitness. Dollars spent in these are more dollars saved in care and increased quality in living.
7. Cost controls on medical supplies.
8. Limit the number of visits a doctor can charge per day.  As it is now a doctor charges for 30+ hour visits a day.  I've seen doctors charge inpatients for a visits (full hour charge) when they spend less than 5 minutes with the patient.
 
I've talked about this before and know I'm forgetting some now, but it's a start. Please add to or critique.


barefootalways

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I agree with you but you have to understand we will never have a change unless the system changes and these big corporation's will not do it. other countries have a sound health care because they also have stricter rules on corporations and strict banking rules. This two party "aka" one party will never want it any other way.


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